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7/06/2005 8:22 AM  

Stipe76, some of us have recently switched hosting providers from WebHost4Life ("old") to WebSecureStores ("new")... we're comparing the difference between the two.

The "new" mailserver that I mentioned above is standard with WebSecureStore's hosting plans.  To migrate, you'd have to switch hosting providers (which may or may not make sense for you, depending on your situation).

ps.  If you decide to switch, use Scott's referral ID (smcculloch) when you do so he gets credit... it's the least we can do to support the site.

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7/06/2005 5:12 PM  
Posted By doconnell on 7/6/2005 8:22:55 AM

Stipe76, some of us have recently switched hosting providers from WebHost4Life ("old") to WebSecureStores ("new")... we're comparing the difference between the two.

The "new" mailserver that I mentioned above is standard with WebSecureStore's hosting plans.  To migrate, you'd have to switch hosting providers (which may or may not make sense for you, depending on your situation).

ps.  If you decide to switch, use Scott's referral ID (smcculloch) when you do so he gets credit... it's the least we can do to support the site.


I really like that stats too, it does a very good job.

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7/06/2005 7:20 PM  

I've been with websecurestores since January, and recently opened a reseller account with resellerchoice. My question was more of a general one reagrding migration of users if a server move is made.

For example, let's say I want to move all my users, domains, etc from rc to wss, what would be the best way to do this? Is there some sort of automated way to create email accounts on the new server, or is it all a manual move?

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7/07/2005 10:07 AM  

I'm not aware of anything that would automate the entire process.

Though moving the domains is just a matter of repointing the DNS server to the new name servers, and moving the DNN websites can be easily accomplished through the Portal Templates feature, the other elements (email accounts, ftp accounts, users, etc.) are all manual jobs I'm afraid.

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7/08/2005 7:29 AM  

Thanks mate, I assumed so

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7/16/2005 8:25 AM  
I too have been a member of WSS for quite some time...
I have been very pleased with the results and uptime.

To clarify and reiterate some questions I noticed, Yes the domain alias is each domain you have pointed at your install. So for example I have an older plan, (I don't think they carry it anymore, since they started the reseller plan) that I have 5 domain alias that I can use per install, the trouble is, as someone pointed out, you cannot provide each domain with their own email, unless you "Add on a Domain"... I know it doesnt make much sense, I have 5 why do I need to add one on... Their documentation has always left more questions than answers, but I usually shoot them an email and get a response fairly quick. Under their newer plans though I think you only get 1 alias per install, which sucks if you want to host multiple sites on 1 install, you have to add on each domain costing more money.
I like the plan I have, it was the $9.99 plan, (but with 5 alias), but I was considering getting the reseller from the aspect of seperate DBs and email is provided for each account as well.
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7/16/2005 4:52 PM  
Posted By bschmitt on 7/16/2005 8:25:58 AM
I too have been a member of WSS for quite some time...
I have been very pleased with the results and uptime.

To clarify and reiterate some questions I noticed, Yes the domain alias is each domain you have pointed at your install. So for example I have an older plan, (I don't think they carry it anymore, since they started the reseller plan) that I have 5 domain alias that I can use per install, the trouble is, as someone pointed out, you cannot provide each domain with their own email, unless you "Add on a Domain"... I know it doesnt make much sense, I have 5 why do I need to add one on... Their documentation has always left more questions than answers, but I usually shoot them an email and get a response fairly quick. Under their newer plans though I think you only get 1 alias per install, which sucks if you want to host multiple sites on 1 install, you have to add on each domain costing more money.
I like the plan I have, it was the $9.99 plan, (but with 5 alias), but I was considering getting the reseller from the aspect of seperate DBs and email is provided for each account as well.



I spoke with Jeff about the domain alias's and here is the quote I got (they are currently revising their plans to be more DNN friendly for domain alias's):-

For the people that you refer that need more domain alias we will just give them these if you can just tell them to ask for some more until we revise our plans.


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7/16/2005 6:18 PM  
Hehe... I guess we'll soon find out how they are about refunds!
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7/16/2005 7:13 PM  
Posted By doconnell on 7/16/2005 6:18:57 PM
Hehe... I guess we'll soon find out how they are about refunds!


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7/17/2005 5:03 AM  
I just got this email from Jeff at websecurestores..

FYI: We adjusted the reseller alias today to match the domains another thing we are looking into the email domain alias in smarter mail also.

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7/17/2005 7:17 AM  
Scott, in my earlier post I just meant that I've already paid the extra "domain email addon" for a bunch of domains, so if they're revising their policy to allow for root email for all domains, then I'll ask for a refund on the addons.
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7/17/2005 7:20 AM  
Posted By doconnell on 7/17/2005 7:17:19 AM
Scott, in my earlier post I just meant that I've already paid the extra "domain email addon" for a bunch of domains, so if they're revising their policy to allow for root email for all domains, then I'll ask for a refund on the addons.

Ahh, good idea

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7/21/2005 12:57 PM  

As an update - I swapped over to WebSecureStores last week - I'm going to close out WH4L as soon as we finish transitioning our mail accounts and aliases.

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7/21/2005 4:52 PM  
Nice - how have you found performance on WSS?

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7/21/2005 7:57 PM  

I know you weren't asking me, Scott, but I'd like to submit my report as well...

My experience thus far with WSS has been nothing short of phenomenal.

I even got an email the other day about a service outage BEFORE it happened... imagine the concept of actually notifying users ahead of time that there might be some downtime for server maintenance!  What a novel idea!

And another funny thing... *MY* application has yet to hang the webserver at WSS (a common occurrance at WH4L)!

So far, it's been an excellent move.  Performance is improived, and reliability is just LIGHT YEARS ahead.

Let's hope these guys keep up teh great work!

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7/21/2005 8:02 PM  
Posted By doconnell on 7/21/2005 7:57:22 PM

I know you weren't asking me, Scott, but I'd like to submit my report as well...

My experience thus far with WSS has been nothing short of phenomenal.

I even got an email the other day about a service outage BEFORE it happened... imagine the concept of actually notifying users ahead of time that there might be some downtime for server maintenance!  What a novel idea!

And another funny thing... *MY* application has yet to hang the webserver at WSS (a common occurrance at WH4L)!

So far, it's been an excellent move.  Performance is improived, and reliability is just LIGHT YEARS ahead.

Let's hope these guys keep up teh great work!



Thanks Dan for the review, I have to share your thoughts too. They notified me about a 5minute Sql outage days before it happened.

Performance on this site used to be OK with WH4L, but it was just unreliable. My reliability factor has gone way up, see the log from host tracker here.


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12/19/2005 1:58 PM  

Sorry to flog a dead horse but I was wondering if anybody received a refund from wh4l  when switching from wh4l to wss. I would like to change to wss based on the comments in here and on asp.net. I have one host portal and two child portals, which will soon go live.

Thanks for any info


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Posted By ech01 on 12/19/2005 1:58 PM

Sorry to flog a dead horse but I was wondering if anybody received a refund from wh4l  when switching from wh4l to wss. I would like to change to wss based on the comments in here and on asp.net. I have one host portal and two child portals, which will soon go live.

Thanks for any info



I'm not sure, I kept my account open..

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