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7/09/2009 6:57 PM  

I was planning on using this myself and posted about it a few months ago here. I got no response so I never ended up buying it.

The developer did answer my questions so hopefully it does work as advertised because it would make things a lot easier.

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7/09/2009 9:15 PM  
I agree it would make things a lot easier. I also wrote the developer but his auto-message he is out of the office until 7/14/09. So I guess I will wait to purchase it until the developer can ensure the product is going to work as advertised. I have looked at his demo and I think its really going to help me, but I didnt like Kevin's comments saying that all the files were not compiled correctly. That is the difference with a lot of these smaller developers that dont really have their stuff together. Scott is by far the best developer I have seen on the internet. Anyone needing DNN modules this site should be the first stop, because it has pertty much everything you need.
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7/09/2009 9:15 PM  

If its possible, I do wish this enhancement could be implemented into the PA module, because I would trust it more, over another 3rd party developer.

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7/09/2009 10:46 PM  

Agreed, Scott is definitely a cut above most of the other developers out there.   Last night I was looking at how many modules I've bought in the past where the developer simply stopped developing and supporting the product.

 

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7/13/2009 7:08 AM  
Is the linking of a property (to another instance of a property) a custom field? e.g. for a template containing a team, you could have 11 custom fields that point to another instance of property agent defined as "player". Is this how that PA linker works?

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7/13/2009 7:58 AM  
Yes exactly. This way you could reference multiple custom fields, and display information amongst them all. I really like the team example / player, because its very easy for people to understand. I will be using it for other purposes as well as the team/player, but the concept still applies.
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7/13/2009 7:59 AM  
Would you player property agent be hidden from the end user? E.g. they do all their browsing in the team property agent?

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7/13/2009 8:07 AM  
yes and no.

I think you could see a complete list of players, and it would show all the player stats above and the team info at the bottom.

Vice versa

It would show all the team stats and you can specify which players, maybe the top 5 players, or 10, and it would display a short summary of those players below the team. You could also go and click each player directly which would take them to their players page, which full details.
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7/21/2009 12:46 PM  
Posted By Kevin Hudson on 7/09/2009 12:47 PM

I got a e-mail reponse telling me he's going to be on vactaion until 07/14/2009, so I guess I'll just have to wait.



Hey, I'm back from a week long trip and I've received a response from the Developer and an update to the PA. I need to get it loaded and play with it a little and I'll let you guys know how it works out.

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7/21/2009 4:37 PM  
Kevin,

Thanks. I also contacted the developer, and he said he was going to work on the fix. Looks like he must of, since he emailed you. Please let me know how it goes. Still have a lot of projects going on that cound benefit from something like this.
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9/19/2009 5:12 AM  
They posted a new version of their PA Linker on http://www.mydnnmodules.com. Works ok now.
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9/19/2009 6:30 AM  

Adam and Scott

Maybe I'm wrong - maybe I don't understand totally, what the point is.

I'm Danish, and don't understand all nuances in the English :O)

.. but I'm reading, that you can not have 2 instances of PA in a portal - is this right understood?

I have 3!

One for each languages: English, Danish and Spanish...

... and what more is, I'm using the same template!! I copied the templates in Layout Files from the English to the other language and just changed the necessary words in the template in the actually language.

I don't think you can find any mistake or language mix?!

It's working perfect! You can have a look:

http://www.spaininfogroupproperties.com/prop/en/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

I know Scott has said in another thread, that it's not the right way to do it. But I don't know any other way, and as long this is working, I'm happy :O)

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9/20/2009 1:02 AM  

Vikingo, you are misunderstanding. The idea is not to have multiple instances in one portal, we all know you can do that.

It's so that you can link two different instances together via one field. So if you have a list of properties that includes a city field, you can make an entire new directory of information about those cities.

Therefore if a person sees Madrid as the location, they can click on it and then Madrid will appear inside a new PA instance with a whole lot of info about the city itself.

You could take that even further and then show clubs in Madrid, and when they click on the nightclub's name you get another PA instance with details about specific clubs.

The question I have is whether we even need this module linker with the new custom fields. I'm pretty sure we could achieve the same thing using custom fields that contain links to the other database.

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9/20/2009 1:26 AM  
FM,

I am working on something similar to that, were all my restaurants, will look to a separate property agent instance, that will display the entire menu, and things of that sort.

I want to create one that has hotels, and then put links on it, that will display back to Parks, Attractions, etc.. Each of them having separate instances of property agents..

I have the concept all linked up on paper, and am just now building each one, because they will all have different templates, and will all link up together. may take a few more weeks, but its in the process.
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9/20/2009 1:54 AM  
Sounds like what I have in mind. I want to have the main item at the top, and then several other PA modules linked below, each in a separate tab (using Livetabs).

I'm trying to figure out the best way of doing that, let me know how yours works out.
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9/20/2009 8:56 AM  
FM,

I like the tabs idea, but have you been able to use the livetabs to make this work? If so, how are you achieving this?
I just got the newest version of livetabs, and have not implemented anything with it yet..
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9/20/2009 8:58 AM  
PA Linker is the way to go. I'm using it to link separate PA modules by Agent. But you also have the option of selecting a Custom field to link. For Adam's Hotel example, you could create a hidden Region field in all your PA modules and link those. The only thing to keep in mind when working with PA Linker is that it doesn't use the existing PA List template and has limited set of tokens. However, you do have access to custom fields and it has its own template you can modify. There is one downside (currently), PA Linker does not provide photo dimension tokens so you will get some skewed results if you need to include photos in your "linked" list. I've requested that they enhance this and also a few other items such as a token section to display custom output when there is no data.

I have read some requests for Scott to add this "linking" capability to the PA module. I have to disagree, only because I think there are some bigger fish for Scott to go after in terms of capabilities in his module suite. Thats just my personal opinion. The fact there are 3rd party add-ons for Ventrian, ex. metaPost and PA Linker, is a testament to the strength of Ventrian.
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9/20/2009 5:40 PM  
This may work out, I will purchase a copy and test it. I do see some benefits if it works the way I think it will..
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9/20/2009 5:42 PM  
In your statement if Ventrian should include this into his build I would have to say I disagree. I want him to. The reason why, is he is the best at his application, and the source. He knows things outside 3rd party developers have to tween through code trying to figure out how things are modified each time he makes a modification to the build, which all of his knows happens quite often with enhancemnets. I would hate for something to break because my PA linker stops working when I do an upgrade to one of Scott's upgrades.
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9/20/2009 7:46 PM  
I would hate for something to break because my PA linker stops working when I do an upgrade to one of Scott's upgrades.

I agree and that's what my concern is as well.

 

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