Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 8/24/2006 7:13 AM |
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This screen represents the "View Property" screen of the "Estate Agent" module.
From the two attachment (one GIF and the other visio), you can see what the "View Property" screen of the "Estate Agent" module will look like.
Any comments are much appreciated, there will be other designs posted. This is your chance to participate in the development of a new Ventrian module. |

Attachment: ViewProperty.vsd
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Larry Oliver Registered Users
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| 8/24/2006 7:37 AM |
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| The ability to add more than 5 Pictures as well as the ability add descriptions to each picture would be very useful |
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Have a great day! Larry |
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Net Doctors Gold Membership
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| 8/24/2006 8:15 AM |
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| Instead of Agent Info under the short summary I would like to see move vital info there such as Address, Community, square ft. An just put all the agent info near the bottom next to the contact form. Since Detailed summaries can sometimes get long you might want to consider that spanning across the whole width of the module and putting the agent details and contact agent form side by side underneath the detailed summary. I don't have visio so I can't quickly redraw what I am trying to say. |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 8/24/2006 11:46 PM |
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| I agree about the agent info moving. I'll post an update tonight with the changes (including the full span for detailed summary). |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 8/24/2006 11:47 PM |
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Posted By LOliver on 8/24/2006 7:37 AM The ability to add more than 5 Pictures as well as the ability add descriptions to each picture would be very useful
Yes, there would be thumbnailed images, clicking on any would launch a popup window with a gallery (similar to SImple Gallery)
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Larry Oliver Registered Users
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| 8/25/2006 11:48 AM |
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| I knew there would be images. Your layout shows place holders for 5. I was requesting the ability to have more than 5. I am currently using a commercial dnn module for my clients listing but they are requesting more than the 5 that are currently provided. |
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Have a great day! Larry |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 8/25/2006 5:30 PM |
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Posted By LOliver on 8/25/2006 11:48 AM I knew there would be images. Your layout shows place holders for 5. I was requesting the ability to have more than 5. I am currently using a commercial dnn module for my clients listing but they are requesting more than the 5 that are currently provided.
Yes, but if you click on any, a slideshow will appear in a popup that would allow you to view all images.
Does this make sense?
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jamie edwards Gold Membership
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| 8/26/2006 5:55 PM |
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| Just like the simple gallery! That would be perfect! |
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Robert Kakos Gold Membership
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| 8/27/2006 12:33 PM |
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It would be great if the interface could be tabbed as to not overwhelm the user with information.
The tabs at the top of the interface could read:
General | Gallery | Details | Agent | Contact | Comments | Statistics | Notes
This way the presentation layer of the data could bring all the data from the database at one time rather than making multple calls for common information when a user is interested in purchasing property.
Perhaps we can expand this into a owner property listing module rather than only a real estate module by allowing the user to define categories of the property. The business rules would be very similar and the data fields would need to be changed a bit. Other property items like cars, bikes, vacant property, businesses, furniture, pets, etc...
If we offer some user defined fields along with the similar presentation interface I think this could really expand into a powerful module.
Any thoughts on the bigger picture idea? |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 8/27/2006 5:08 PM |
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I agree about the user defined fields, but I think in the initial stages we should just focus on real estate properties, for too long the module has been in "Analysis Paralysis" while trying to come up with a design that will suit anything.
By implementing the module first for real estate, we can then talk about other uses. |
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Robert Kakos Gold Membership
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| 8/27/2006 8:28 PM |
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Focusing the module on Real Estate is fine.
What do you think about the tabbed idea of the module interface? I e-mailed the visio file to a number of friends in the real estate business and interface design. Here are their comments:
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Pictures are a great idea and the movie panel is brilliant. It captures the energy of the property and entices the visitor to look at more details.
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Agent information and contact information should not be "in their face." You want the visitor to be taken in by the property and not feel like it is all about the sale.
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Basic summery information is okay, but more details need be provided without confusing or overwhelming the potential buyer.
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You have to include the ability to provide a map or driving directions. Suggestions included passing data to services like mapquest or google. (my thought when this was suggested to me was to consider pulling data from the DNN membership module and use that as a starting point for driving directions. For those that will not be driving form their membership listed location they can enter the starting address).
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Use icons to represent common fields but give the user the ability to switch to text for limited sighted users and browser compatibility. Icons could be associated to certain home features (ranch could be a certain icon, duplex another, garage could be a car, etc…) people want to see pictures and icons.
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RSS must be available so the data could be pushed to users.
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Consider being able to upload files that associate with the property. This could include brochures, tax papers, foreclosure work, mortgage spreadsheets, maps, school information, etc…
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The publisher of the data should be able to tie the real-estate listing with other possible services, like Zillow, Google Earth, Gov Crime, and or Job Census data.
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You have to be able to describe the image if they click on it. For example showing a picture of a hard wood floor may need further explanation as to the type of wood, age, workmanship. The images should be clickable and provide more information if the listing agent wanted to do so.
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Can a user subscribe to the type of home they are looking for so that in the future if a home that matches their description is found it could e-mail them? I was e-mailed this comment and am not sure what features are considered for the buyer. Thought it would be interesting to include.
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Can the user group the listings or search by different categories. For eample, location, size, type, cost, bedrooms, etc...and more than one particular feature? I think what they were trying to say was, when searching on property can they look for homes in the Orange County area with 4 bedrooms and fireplace. I am not sure what sort of ad-hoc search interface is being considered.
As I collect their ideas I will post them. Understandably less than 10% of the ideas will merit possibility or consideration. My philosophy is that the idea (like a brainstorming session) may trigger other ideas. |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 8/28/2006 7:50 AM |
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These are some great ideas, hopefully with templating, you could have both a tabbed and non-tabbed interface.
I agree about the agent information, it should be moved down, icons are useful, and I had planned icons for "Property Type", "Bedrooms", "Garages", etc.
We'll go through in more detail after the prototype has been released. |
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Danny Tam Registered Users
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| 9/04/2006 9:36 AM |
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Posted By LOliver on 8/25/2006 11:48 AM I knew there would be images. Your layout shows place holders for 5. I was requesting the ability to have more than 5. I am currently using a commercial dnn module for my clients listing but they are requesting more than the 5 that are currently provided.
Could something nifty be implemented where instead of launching all the images in a new window that the Original Image would change upon clicking on another thumb?
Example: http://www.lik-sang.com/image.php?category=275&products_id=6654&img=nds-jump-superstars-jap |
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Danny Tam Registered Users
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| 9/04/2006 9:39 AM |
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Posted By Trebor on 8/27/2006 8:28 PM Here are their comments:
Some really good suggestions are there. This is making me believe this module can also be used as a vendor system for vehicles and others as well. |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 9/04/2006 6:28 PM |
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In regards to images, I was thinking of using something like:-
http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/
What do you think? (see image set example) |
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Danny Tam Registered Users
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| 9/04/2006 6:41 PM |
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That seems like a good idea, but are you referring to even the flash system? Or just having it mainly pop up as a new browser window? I think it would work, but if this were implemented, would this launch a whole new window for every link clicked on, or continuously overwrite the already opened browser window that would have popped open on the first image link clicked.
It would also be good to have a scaling system like with the thumbs you recently added in the News Articles module. Some images are very large in scale, and for something like this, many users would not how to scale them because they would be computer illiterate or simply do not possess the software for it. It would be good to have a system that auto compresses in Admin Settings (High Compression = Bad Quality), Medium, Low Compression = High Quality) and has a fixed image width that is definable for the popup images. |
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Scott McCulloch Administrators
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| 9/04/2006 6:52 PM |
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There would definately be a scaling system, this would come from Simple Gallery code. There is a compression algorithm that you can choose high quality or default.
I'll think more on the slideshow, the slideshow in Simple Gallery seems to work OK, and always loads in the same popup window. |
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Joe Ledwidge Gold Membership
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| 9/10/2006 5:25 PM |
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Have been reading this thread and though I would add just a little thought, the layout at this link ( http://www3.myhome.ie/search/property.asp?id=286148&np=&rt=search&searchlist= ) has been an extremely successful property site. It uses a single image on the front page with buttons below to go to "Brochure, View All Photos, map, etc ..." When you go to view all photos you get one larger single image and icons for all other images available, number of icons depends on no of images that are available.
Not sure if this is an option but it may just be another way of achieving the same thing.
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