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9/14/2006 5:42 AM  
Hi Scott et al,
 
Am happily using the FriendlyURLs dll but not being a mega-expert on the subtleties of search engine optimisation I find myself wondering if the HumanFriendly setting is any less effective for search engine visibility than the Search Friendly setting?
 
Any thoughts/advice?
 
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9/14/2006 6:55 AM  
HumanFriendly are the URLs you see on this site, SearchFriendly are standard DNN urls.

HumanFriendly is better because it has actually the page name, without tabID, etc. Take a look at the project page for an explanation.

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9/15/2006 7:22 AM  
If you only could get rid of parts of the url like this: tabid/118/forumid/35/postid/12718/view/topic/Default.aspx. If that was something like 12718.aspx and skip the rest it would be a lot nicer.


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9/15/2006 3:04 PM  
Mariette, to do that, the code would be specific to Active Forums.

From 12718 you could resolve:-

* ForumID (associated with the number above that is a PostID)
* Which control to load, assume view=topic.

What would be difficult to resolve, without setting it somewhere, would be the TabID for the Active Forums. If it were a setting, we could look at that expression, and assign it TabID=118, there would be no automatic way of reliably doing this without some setting.

From the TabID, you can retrieve the PortalID, so you would have a fully resolvable URL.

So it is possible, but would require some Active Forums specific queries.

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9/15/2006 10:59 PM  
I don't mind about the TabId, that was a mistake in my question. Would be nice if the same is possible for News Articles.


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9/16/2006 7:29 AM  
I'v been pondering this same question, but with a different issue. How important is the url to search engines? I don't think it is as important as the content of the page, and that your links can be traversed by search engines. Plenty of big sites get indexed fine with cryptic urls. The problem I have with the friendly url's is that if you move things around in your site. For example, if scott would change the "support" menu to be called "help". Search engines would have to re-index all the pages under "help", and more importantly, if there are 100 pages that reference pages in the forums, all those backlinks will fail. Yea, you could do some url rewrites to map to the new urls, but that can be a pain if you have alot of content and move things around.

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9/16/2006 8:59 AM  
Having a keyword in the URL is something search engines find very important. If you've bothered to have a URL that has a keyword in it, it's reasonable to believe that the page has something to do with the keyword. Remember, search engines are there to help humans, some a human-friendly url would score more highly than the classic search engine friendly url.

The search engine friendly url was better than the url w/parameters because search engines are parameter-adverse. They don't want to get stuck indexing your entire product catalog.

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9/18/2006 10:54 AM  
Posted By Mariette on 9/15/2006 7:22 AM
If you only could get rid of parts of the url like this: tabid/118/forumid/35/postid/12718/view/topic/Default.aspx. If that was something like 12718.aspx and skip the rest it would be a lot nicer.


Note if you have a specific site and wanted to put in the work to process the URL, you could make the forum be mysite com/child/forums/35/forum-topic-name.aspx or mysite com/child/forums/35.aspx.

I did this as you can see via this link:

http://www.yapclub.com/events/76/yap-vegas-2006.aspx

Which you can do by making specific site "rules" within the urlrewrite. I posted my solution here:

http://www.ventrian.com/Support/ProductForums/tabid/118/forumid/35/postid/10876/view/topic/Default.aspx

Which I believe may have a bug in not getting listed in yahoo index which I am currently looking into. Note you have to know what you are doing and be building a specific site with one DNN instance before trying this....

Jason


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