ROBAX
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| 5/03/2006 6:35 AM |
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Hi all,
I'm trying to set this up and test it using the Paypal sandbox... it's somewhat confusing.
When this is finished I want people to be led to the Paypal payment page that has the option to pay by card without creating a Paypal account, not the page that makes you log in or create a new Paypal account.
I saw that page appear once this evening, but since then I've only managed to get the other one. What's the secret?
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Mariette Knap
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| 5/03/2006 7:11 AM |
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| That is one of the biggest problems with Payapl, you must have a Paypal account if you want to pay with a creditcard. That is one of the reasons many of my users refuse to take a subscription on my site. I offer now they can wire the money to my bank account because I am loosing money. We really need to either get rid of Paypal and find another method or Paypal has to change that stupid policy of creating a Paypal account. |
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Scott McCulloch
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| 5/03/2006 7:38 AM |
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I agree that this is a problem with PayPal. I think i've said this before, my main concern around implementing a payment processor that processes the payment from the site is that most DNN sites are not using SSL.
Does anyone have experience with Authorize.NET, I think the "Simple Integration Method (SIM)" works by redirecting them to Authorize.NET and then back to your site, similar to PayPal. I'm not sure if this requires the person to have an account though.
http://www.authorize.net/solutions/merchantsolutions/merchantservices/connectionmethods/
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ROBAX
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| 5/03/2006 5:59 PM |
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It's part of the Paypal system already, like I was implying. It's called Account Optional and is normally on by default, but perhaps not if one has had an account for some time?
I've gone back to Paypal to have another read and it looks like the page may have vanished because I probably still had session cookies from a couple of accounts when I was using for testing.
I've now gone and cleared my cache and tried again and sure 'nuff, the correct page is there. It provides a normal login on the right and an option to pay without an account on the left.
Scott, can you let us know if the Subscription Tools module works with this? I'm not confident I've got the Sandbox working properly to be able to say so myself.
Regards,
Rob
Here's a bit of guff on the stuff:
About PayPal Account Optional
When PayPal Account Optional is turned on, your customers who are new to PayPal will no longer be required to create a PayPal account to complete a purchase—they will go through an alternate checkout, and will have the option to sign up afterward. Customers who already have PayPal accounts will continue to enjoy the privileges of those accounts, such as payment history and integration with eBay Auctions, and their checkout experience will remain the same.
This feature is available for Buy Now, Donations, and Shopping Cart buttons, but not for Subscription buttons.
Note: If you have turned on Auto Return and have chosen to turn on PayPal Account Optional for new users, a new user will not be automatically directed back to your website, but will be given the option to return.
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Charlie Solomon
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| 5/06/2006 12:13 AM |
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I have "Account Optional" turned on in my PayPal profile, and it is allowing me to pay for a subscription... only problem is that when I click "Return to Merchant" at the end of the PayPal payment process it is not taking me back to my site. Get this - it is sending me to www.microsoft.com!
I browsed around my PayPal profile settings and found a "Return URL" field, which I have now populated with a URL to a page on my site with Scott's Subscription Status module on it... but maybe PayPal takes a while to update because it is still sending me to microsoft! |
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Scott McCulloch
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| 5/06/2006 7:48 AM |
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Charlie, are you using the "Subscription Signup" module, when signing up, it should auto-populate the return URL when sending you to PayPal.
I got your PM which I'm just about to reply to, I'm sure if your using the Signup Mod. |
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Charlie Solomon
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| 5/06/2006 7:58 AM |
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Yes, I'm using the Subscription Signup Module 01.02.02. I'm not sure why PayPal returns me to www.microsoft.com. You can try it if you like at: http://www.web4church.com/SignUp/tabid/287/Default.aspx
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Scott McCulloch
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| 5/06/2006 8:02 AM |
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Can you give me an account, or point me to the register page (I can't register an account)
You can send it support@ventrian.com if it's an account.. |
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Charlie Solomon
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| 5/06/2006 1:05 PM |
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Hi Scott - sorry for the delay... we've been in Filmore with my 2 year old son watching "Thomas the Tank Engine". Good times.
I just registered you (I had set the "User" page in my DNN site settings, that's why you could not register.) |
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Scott McCulloch
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| 5/08/2006 6:10 AM |
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I know what the problem is with the error, it's in the UrlEncode methods of .NET,
If I run the code on DNN 3 with module code built in ASP.NET 1.1 it works
If I run the code on DNN 4 with module built in ASP.NET 2.0 it works
Unfortunately, module code built in ASP.NET 1.1 is coming up with very different results when calling URLEncode in ASP.NET 2 |
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Jason Koskimaki
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| 5/08/2006 7:55 AM |
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I had this same aversion to PayPal but found out they do allow you to not get an account now. Not sure when that happened and it is confusing on how it works. Also, I think if you have a paypal account and use it the cookie associated with your login will force the "user your paypal acount" screen instead I believe.
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Charlie Solomon
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| 5/08/2006 9:45 AM |
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Posted By smcculloch on 5/08/2006 6:10 AM
I know what the problem is with the error, it's in the UrlEncode methods of .NET,
If I run the code on DNN 3 with module code built in ASP.NET 1.1 it works
If I run the code on DNN 4 with module built in ASP.NET 2.0 it works
Unfortunately, module code built in ASP.NET 1.1 is coming up with very different results when calling URLEncode in ASP.NET 2
That was it Scott, the update you posted (Subscription Tools 01.02.03) fixed the problem and my return URL is working great now. Thanks!
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brian
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| 5/09/2006 3:42 PM |
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I dont think you need to worry about those with paypal accounts being upset if paypal cookies them and has them login.. they already have an account and can just pay by credit card anyhow.  This has been like this for a while now.. no paypal account required.
I put on my customer's site .. paypal account not required to pay by creditcard
(still looking for an authorize.net solution.. in this module..) |
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Scott McCulloch
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| 5/09/2006 5:58 PM |
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| I've downloaded the authorize.net solution, as well as taking a look at paypal express checkout that uses a web service API to talk with paypal, speeds up the transaction, and leaves them on your site for the majority of the transaction. |
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ROBAX
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| 5/09/2006 6:21 PM |
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| great stuff |
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brian
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| 3/04/2007 12:05 AM |
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| old thread but still looking for authorize.net .. ( there are 3rd party ssl solutions for dnn too.. or all site ssl built in, maybe one day they will get a better core solution).... |
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brian
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| 3/30/2007 12:37 PM |
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bump...
I just realized that PayPal is required when using this module. This is a parameter being passed incorrectly.
Can we get a hotfix to this ASAP????
I think this is being sent as a subscription that renews when it is not or a related parameter.
I have a customer website where I told them paypal is not needed now they dont want this solution.... |
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Scott McCulloch
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| 3/30/2007 3:33 PM |
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Brian,
Do you have account optional turned on for PayPal?
"About PayPal Account Optional
When PayPal Account Optional is turned on, your customers who are new to PayPal will no longer be required to create a PayPal account to complete a purchase—they will go through an alternate checkout, and will have the option to sign up afterward. Customers who already have PayPal accounts will continue to enjoy the privileges of those accounts, such as payment history and integration with eBay Auctions, and their checkout experience will remain the same."
What parameter are you talking about? |
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brian
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| 3/31/2007 3:48 PM |
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1. kick customer butt
2. apologize to scott
3. go on with life
thanks!! |
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Stefan Malmborg
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| 9/08/2007 12:56 AM |
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Hi, maybe my english is not so good so i cant find the solution here in the forum search.
When im trying the subscription tool it only show the "register a paypal account" or my own account information if i havent cleared the cookies. But i want my users to pay with credit card´without creating a paypal account. But i always get that page where they should registrer or login with paypal.
Im using the smallest paypal account, i think its called "personal" |
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